tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post7959041462924741577..comments2024-03-28T01:47:39.446-06:00Comments on Author Elana Johnson: Cleaning Up the PukeElana Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05877856005992028912noreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-78374409495351067342010-05-14T17:00:22.270-06:002010-05-14T17:00:22.270-06:00I might try your thirds and post
indian classifie...I might try your thirds and post<br /><a href="http://www.adpress.in" rel="nofollow"> indian classified site </a>kanishkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13651620533023202224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-8595690613014118322010-05-13T04:32:51.183-06:002010-05-13T04:32:51.183-06:00I started doing a modified version of what you do....I started doing a modified version of what you do.<br /><br />With my last manuscript, I would print out the various pages I'd get written and make copious notes during my down time at work, and on the weekends and during down time in general. By the time I got finished with all 143 pages, I had about 95% of the manuscript covered with all kinds of notes, cross-outs, etc.<br /><br />Just finished the first round of editing and now I'm waiting for the first round of feedback on it.G. B. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09783331838434598963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-43135268315807851982010-05-12T21:21:08.307-06:002010-05-12T21:21:08.307-06:00Ugh. Your method sounds incredibly depressing to m...Ugh. Your method sounds incredibly depressing to me. Kudos to you for wading back through it, but I think I'll stick with my completely anal outlining. :)Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05905068858745819892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-65025616450428194362010-05-12T08:34:09.817-06:002010-05-12T08:34:09.817-06:00Lately I've developed this habit -as well as b...Lately I've developed this habit -as well as being a dedicated panster - of writing scenes totally out of order. So before I can even get to an honest to goodness revision, there are about 20 sessions of organizing and arranging (and of course rewriting) to get everything in order before I can get to a true revision. <br /><br />Then I just take it one chapter at a time. But I never print. That's my husband's method. I prefer cut and paste!Lily Catehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17732112345439595471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-10768948347129077482010-05-12T00:57:03.616-06:002010-05-12T00:57:03.616-06:00I also write it all to the end before doing major ...I also write it all to the end before doing major revisions. My first draft took a little over three weeks to write. I've done two revisions, but nothing major except the first and last chapter (my problem areas, especially first ch)<br /><br />I mostly work on the computer for revision, but every week or so, I print a copy and mark it up, using every color of the rainbow (I just use whatever pen I can steal from the nearest coworker).<br /><br />My problem is I don't know when to quit editing. I think I'd just keep changing it until they pry it from my cold, dead hands.Angela McCallisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10610798614001745001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-31348202534400724282010-05-11T23:51:00.075-06:002010-05-11T23:51:00.075-06:00I've started writing a scene per page in a not...I've started writing a scene per page in a notebook. I write down the scene, characters, conflict, plot point, character point, reactions of each character and all five senses used in the scene. <br />It helps me see what I've missed.Taffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11796711977284429278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-77422652182041763102010-05-11T23:45:59.180-06:002010-05-11T23:45:59.180-06:00I like to see how other writers do their thing. Th...I like to see how other writers do their thing. Thanks, Elana. <br />And you can beg me to read anytime for you anytime.Taffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11796711977284429278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-28710266525826112592010-05-11T23:29:42.198-06:002010-05-11T23:29:42.198-06:00I have a time consuming habit of editing as I'...I have a time consuming habit of editing as I'm writing -- ugh.Rena Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02328844122193024220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-69331060312074046372010-05-11T21:37:27.128-06:002010-05-11T21:37:27.128-06:00I'm amazed at the fact you can pantser yoursel...I'm amazed at the fact you can pantser yourself a 1st draft in 6 weeks. If I can finish a first draft in twice that, I'm giddy.<br /><br />As for the cleanup... yeah. It takes a long time. I leave it. Go back. Track changes. Save as a new version then accept all changes. Then leave it for a while. Then go back and read again. Then - REPEAT.<br /><br />Yeah, throw in there some beta-reader begging and you've got my system.Windyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07684298115679477705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-76023070887198088952010-05-11T20:57:29.038-06:002010-05-11T20:57:29.038-06:00Whoops. I meant hugger not huger. Just cleaning up...Whoops. I meant hugger not huger. Just cleaning up the puke.Brenda Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01263237745979525170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-39449639861303740752010-05-11T20:54:35.378-06:002010-05-11T20:54:35.378-06:00I'm such a tree huger, I avoid printing at all...I'm such a tree huger, I avoid printing at all costs. I do puke a bit, but I always clean it up afterward. Crap. Maybe, I need to get a little more messier.Brenda Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01263237745979525170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-54470257559965524812010-05-11T20:51:10.807-06:002010-05-11T20:51:10.807-06:00I'm totally a puker. I tend to read my CRAP a...I'm totally a puker. I tend to read my CRAP and then make little notes to myself for a few weeks. Then I start filling in the blanks. It is not unusual for me to start a new chapter, new Word doc and then cut and paste it into my WIP.Little Ms Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00034349274576201531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-47294136633142741222010-05-11T20:45:40.198-06:002010-05-11T20:45:40.198-06:00My pens purple and I'm with you...the clean-up...My pens purple and I'm with you...the clean-up takes a heck of a lot longer than the original writing.Renaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08190361875174742351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-38827489688759456132010-05-11T19:24:53.469-06:002010-05-11T19:24:53.469-06:00Hahaa! This is such a gross post, but so true.
I p...Hahaa! This is such a gross post, but so true.<br />I puke slower and clean up as it happens. *grin* So,about five to sixth months of pukage, two months afterward to clean up what I missed. ;-)Jessica Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12365768876905444157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-5437945031635921512010-05-11T19:14:09.919-06:002010-05-11T19:14:09.919-06:00I like having a printed page to mark up. Doesn...I like having a printed page to mark up. Doesn't matter what color, usually not red or black. Sometimes I use pencil.Mary Aalgaardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08051735579638637382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-15518938704952431702010-05-11T17:46:45.782-06:002010-05-11T17:46:45.782-06:00wowee that's some process, sister. I don't...wowee that's some process, sister. I don't print anything out (except when going to critique group)--but now you've got me thinking!Christina Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799776834213400246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-83627677006290503742010-05-11T17:46:45.029-06:002010-05-11T17:46:45.029-06:00wowee that's some process, sister. I don't...wowee that's some process, sister. I don't print anything out (except when going to critique group)--but now you've got me thinking!Christina Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799776834213400246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-46355151516454068882010-05-11T17:28:59.329-06:002010-05-11T17:28:59.329-06:00I've never printed out anything. Might or migh...I've never printed out anything. Might or might not be because I'm too cheap or because the printers are always broken.<br /><br />I open another word file and make a brief outline - 1 sentence per scene<br /><br />I add notes for plot holes etc <br /><br />Then I attack and repeat.Jemi Fraserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02214408467456320167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-33771186320134315992010-05-11T17:00:19.950-06:002010-05-11T17:00:19.950-06:00I'm starting a complete rewrite. It's exci...I'm starting a complete rewrite. It's exciting and frustrating at the same time...and I'd rather not do it too many more times, if possible. Needless to say, I've turned myself into a plotter, however loosely, and after this is done, no more "puking" up drafts. <br /><br />I don't mind line-editing at all, but major revisions are for the birds, IMO. So I'm going for good, just needs line/copy editing drafts from here on out, even if that means writing slower. 'Cause that's how I need to roll for my own sanity. ;-)Jamie D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05486427517423813962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-70910231255021498872010-05-11T16:29:38.329-06:002010-05-11T16:29:38.329-06:00Cleaning up my latest pukey mess has taken over si...Cleaning up my latest pukey mess has taken over six months. Trust me; it was bad. Okay, so, we bleed purple around here, but it has nothing to do with editing. It's called the Kansas State Wildcats, baby! I edit with a blue pen. Anything more colorful makes me puke all over again.Susan R. Millshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09578747592345750650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-79195011852109231832010-05-11T16:29:09.234-06:002010-05-11T16:29:09.234-06:00I edit almost like you, but with every passage for...I edit almost like you, but with every passage for a specific reason. <br /><br />My pens are purple (love it), red (teacherish, but it makes me pay attention) and green (because it's fun and different and makes me smile.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-46418627571263534372010-05-11T16:18:00.076-06:002010-05-11T16:18:00.076-06:00Elana, you just gave me the queasy shakes and I th...Elana, you just gave me the queasy shakes and I think I need to go actually do the real thing. =(<br /><br />I'm with you on getting the first draft out quickly. I punched out a novel for nanowrimo 2009. Almost 80k and I'd already started the thing. The clean up is time consuming and nasty. Love your ideas. Thanks for sharing.RaShelle Workmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17582252557500502186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-13989048676892669652010-05-11T16:15:48.026-06:002010-05-11T16:15:48.026-06:00I use a red pen but maybe I'll switch to purpl...I use a red pen but maybe I'll switch to purple because why the heck not? I love purple. It's my favorite color. Maybe I'd handle my own crits better if I used a color I actually like. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-79358317950343742582010-05-11T15:48:19.162-06:002010-05-11T15:48:19.162-06:001st, put everything down in print as asap (usually...1st, put everything down in print as asap (usually 12 weeks, I'm impressed with your 6!)<br /><br />2nd put wip away for a few weeks. Clean house - wash dirty laundry.<br /><br />3rd reread and correct things that don't make sense.<br /><br />4th send out to critique groups & beta readers. <br /><br />5th query. (Oh man, I'm tired just looking at this list!) <br /><br />Excellent post Elana! I love seeing how you do it! =)Carolyn V.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15456210036213016603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9058478111996476699.post-29233375019122432212010-05-11T15:18:45.856-06:002010-05-11T15:18:45.856-06:00When writing short pieces like my essays, I usuall...When writing short pieces like my essays, I usually have it started in my head and I just puke. No editing and no thinking beyond the main theme. Then I save it and come back to it tomorrow and tinker until it is complete.<br /><br />For my MS, I am working on my first. I seem to follow similar steps in that I have the scene worked out in my head and when I do get time to actually sit and write I puke it out. (Sometimes I am distracted by actual puke from dogs or the resident 9 and under crowd)<br /><br />Then I discover inconsistencies or plot holes and go backward and work them in, still not editing really, just getting it all in place. Once things seem to make sense again, I go on where I left off. Once it is "done", I seem to try line by line - and it is not working. <br /><br />I need bigger picture though, and am seeking a way through that. I am thinking about Matthew's comment with the large white board... maybe it is time to go that route.<br />:)Corinne Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02808893058098769844noreply@blogger.com